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Dr Marc Surtees has a first degree in Applied Biology and a PhD in Zoology. His doctoral research was in the hormonal control of seasonal breeding of the grey squirrel. He investigated some of the control mechanisms which ensure that squirrels breed at the right time of year to maximize the survival of their young. The hormonal control of breeding is an example of a switchable feedback control mechanism. Engineers use feedback control mechanisms in many types of machine. The existence of feedback control systems in nature is one of the many evidence of design that biologists work with all the time.
"It's exciting to be part of this group that exists to explore the evidences of design. So much of biology supports the theory of intelligent design, and I hope that discussion of the evidence will help people to see that the Biblical account of creation is as scientifically reasonable as Darwinism."
Dr Marc Surtees - PhD Zoologist, Marc and his wife run
Paradigm Shift a science shop on Leith Walk that also sells books on creation
"I am delighted to see the Creation Group being formed in Edinburgh as a timely forum for looking at evidence on the origins of life. Too often we have assumed that certain beliefs are fact, thus it is refreshing to see a group willing to address the scientific basis on this topic. As an Engineer I can see incredible structure and organisation in nature, with complex, yet perfectly constructed, building blocks for life. The question that then follows is whether such a construction can occur through random events, or whether there is some design underlying it."
Dr Dave Laurenson, PhD in Electrical Engineering, The University of Edinburgh
"I am very pleased that the Edinburgh Creation group has formed. Edinburgh has a long prestigious history of careful scientific endeavour - men of the stature of James Clerk Maxwell and James Simpson come to mind. With such a heritage, it is in keeping with the Christian convictions of many of these scientists that a careful and rigorous examination of the modern evolutionary story of origins should take place. The superstitious religious fervour in which evolution is held by so many today has attempted to stop the voice of critics being heard. However there is a growing awareness in academic circles that alternative scientific paradigms must be considered. My earnest desire is that the Edinburgh group will help many of the student population to carefully reconsider the facts and be brought to a robust understanding of the evidence for design in nature, and the recognition that much of the fossil record bears great testimony to a flood that covered the globe and its aftermath."
"My knowledge of thermodynamics has shown me that all mechanical systems (such as an engine or fridge or aeroplane etc.) require not only energy but ordered machinery in order to work. Thus simply adding energy to a lump of matter will not turn this into a machine which can do useful work. Clausius and other great thermodynamic scientists of the past, demonstrated this in the precise expression of the second law of thermodynamics which states that some of energy for useful work will in any system always be lost irretrievably. It has been argued that with an open system, useful energy can be put back in, but this will only be of use if there is an existing machine! One can never get round the 2nd law even for open systems. Working machinery or coded information (when dealing with digitally controlled machines such as in DNA) is always required before anything works."
Professor Andy C. McIntosh DSc, FIMA, C.Math, FEI, C.Eng, FInstP, MIGEM, FRAeS (Professor of Thermodynamics and Combustion Theory)